Showing posts with label Web Sites. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Web Sites. Show all posts
Sunday, April 1, 2018
Archiving Herfordshire Local History web sites and the Wayback Machine
I have just been asked about saving the "Genealogy in Hertfordshire" web site on the Wayback machine - and I have recently been involved in discussions within the Tring Local History Society about consolidation various Tring local history digital records to ensure that they remain accessible when the current owners are no longer in a position to support them. This suggests that it might be appropriate to try and develop a county wide policy for archiving the scattered web sites of local historians and societies. However for the moment I will just say a little about the Wayback Machine and how it relates to my web site..
www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk has been automatically monitored by the Wayback Machine since 2000 and pages have been captured on 248 occasions. The first pages captured are from 2000 - when it was a bulletin board - but on retrieving them you only get the page framework and the actual bulletin posts, which contain the historical information, are missing.
The site "Genealogy in Hertfordshire" that most people are familiar with, started in April 2001 and a check shows that several extensive snapshots of the site were taken then. I have looked at the later April archive and clicked through a number of pages - and it is possible that the whole site has been recorded as it was originally created. A similar very limited spot check in November 2001 failed to reveal any missing pages.
A check at the end of 2005 showed that while many pages were present, sections such as the pages containing a copy of the the booklet "Tring in 1947" were missing. On the other hand my WW1 talk on "The Terriers in West Herts" appears to be present, and possibly complete. It is clear that Wayback was only archiving a sample of the pages at this date.
By 2010 Wayback was only visiting the site about 4 times a year - and a check shows the Home page with the picture missing. However a quick check showed it was possible to follow some of the menus and interestingly the "Tring in 1947" pages were now accessible, so may have been archived between 2005 and 2010..
There has only been 1 snapshot in 2018, up to the end of March. The main entry page has two pictures missing but it is definitely possible to navigate through parts of the site. However it looks as is there is a limit to the depth of nesting of links and most of the pages and pictures relating to my recent research on the St Albans post card artist signing his name Karaktus had not been archived. I also suspect that many other pages, which were archived years ago, may not show recent updates. Two links on the home page are interesting. The link to the "Hertfordshire News" blog takes you to an archive copy of the blog (sampled 17 times since 2013). The link to "A Guide to Old Hertfordshire" took ages to load the google map, and if you click on a flag on the map it appeared to take you to the correct page - but it was NOT an archived page but the current live page!
The above observations fit in with what I have found, over the years, when looking for local history sites which had suddenly gone offline for some reason.In some case this was because the author/owner had died and the ISP subscription had lapsed, and in other cases the local history pages had been part of a bigger site, perhaps run by a parish council or a church, where the site had been "brought up to date" and the pages of historic information lost when the new version of the site was introduced.
In fact the Wayback machine can be asked to archive single web pages and a test this afternoon recorded one page where only the text and some of the pictures had been archived in March. The page is now on the Wayback machine - with all the pictures - but none of the links to supporting pages have been followed up and archived. This seems a good way to archive single stand alone pages - each of which will have a unique permanent URL. However over the next few weeks I will do some tests, followed up by retrieval requests a few days later, on some of the missing parts of my web site and report on the results.
In addition Wayback also offer a subscription archiving service which will regularly scan and update the archives of selected web sites. This seems to be aimed at major libraries and Universities - for instance to archive web sites linked to particular research projects - and would not appear to be suitable for use by large numbers of individual local historians. However it might be possible to co-ordinate web activities across the county - with one organisation (perhaps HALS?) being responsible for selecting what local sites to archive.
Any ideas anyone???? - Comments would be helpful.
Sunday, February 12, 2017
Web sites for Hertfordshire Pubs
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Beer & Brewing |
Pubs were at the heart of most communities and there were often incidents involving them and their customers. In addition it was not unknown for an inquest to be held in the public house nearest the death. There are also licensing. applications - particularly when a new landlord is appointed. Such matters were frequently covered in the local newspapers - many of which are available online in the British Newspaper Archive.
Once you know the name of the publicans from the above sources you will often be able to get more information from the censuses between 1841 and 1911.
Because I am having to spend less time on running this web site I would appreciate it if, in future, you check these sources before you ask me questions about a pub's history.
Tuesday, November 8, 2016
Improved Facilities for Birth and Death Certificates

I decided to test it out using information from the Phipson One Name Study I carried out in the 1980s = which involved manhandling hundreds of heavy Victorian indexes when they were in St Catherine's House, in London. There indexes were later used to produce the online FreeBMD. For details of my tests see below:
Monday, February 16, 2015
Victorian Photographers - Watch the Birdie
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Photographers |
I have recently discovered an interesting site "Watch the Birdie" which contains information on Victorian Photographers - at least some of which come from Hertfordshire. It is run by Christine Hibbert and describes itself as follows:
I’ve been collecting cartes-de-visite photographs for some years now. These are small photographic images from the second half of the 19th century and are a window on the world of Victorian society.My main interests, however, are the names and studios of the photographers who produced these images. Therefore I have collected data from all over Britain relating to 19th century photographers and set them out in alphabetical order, with open-ended dates where known. Trade directories are my main source for these dates, as is census material.The backs of c-d-vs are minor works of art in their own right. They show name, address and services offered by the studio and can be invaluable if there was a photographer in your family tree, if you need to date an old family photo or if you just appreciate graphic design. All the names recorded in the main lists relate to c-d-v photos in my collection.I hope to add more of these images, backs and fronts, in the course of time and hope you will venture into the world of our 19th century ancestors, when the photographer said ‘Watch the birdie’.
Tuesday, November 18, 2014
"Lost" Hertford War Memorial web site has been found.
The Hertford War memorial was restored and rededicated in 2001 and Tracy Turner set up a web site with a lot of useful information about it and the names on it. I set up a page linking to it the same year, but Tracy stopped updating her site in 2002. In 2009 I discovered that it had disappeared, and the URL I had given no longer worked, apparently because the web site had been deleted.
Jonty has just emailed me to say the site is now on the WayBack archive. ...
I have also updated my Hertford page to include information on the site.
Sunday, January 13, 2013
Top UK Genealogy web sites
A list of the 100 top genealogy web sites has been published by GenealogyInTime and I reproduce the sites most relevant to British genealogists:
4 | FamilySearch | records | Worldwide | free | https://www.familysearch.org/ |
6 | Ancestry.co.uk | records | UK | pay | http://www.ancestry.co.uk/ |
14 | FindMyPast UK | records | UK | pay | http://www.findmypast.co.uk/ |
24 | Genes Reunited | records | UK | pay | http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/ |
36 | Free BMD | records | UK | free | http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ |
42 | Roots Chat | forum | UK | free | http://rootschat.com/ |
53 | ScotlandsPeople | records | Scotland | pay | http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ |
58 | Genuki | records | UK | free | http://genuki.org.uk/ |
59 | British History Online | records | UK | free | http://www.british-history.ac.uk/ |
60 | thePeerage | records | UK | free | http://thepeerage.com/ |
66 | British Newspaper Archive | newspapers | UK | pay | http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ |
72 | Forces War Records | records | UK | pay | http://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/ |
82 | Lost Cousins | family tree | UK | pay | http://www.lostcousins.com/ |
91 | British-Genealogy | forum | UK | free | http://www.british-genealogy.com/ |
92 | The Genealogist | records | UK | pay | http://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/ |
93 | Commonwealth War Graves | records | UK | free | http://www.cwgc.org/ |
It should be realised that FamilySearch has one worldwide site while, for instance, Ancestry has several, the top being Ancestry.com. Compared with last year the number of free sites in the top 100 has dropped, while the British Newspaper Archive is a very respectable new entry.
Thursday, February 16, 2012
Key Family History Web Sites
I have updated the key links page, following the discovery of a broken link - because the target page had been moved. Minor changes have been made to a few of the descriptive pages. In addition I have added references to some blogs which (like this Newsletter) which you can follow.
- Cyndi's List has a blog you can follow.
- Family Records - This site has now closed and links to it have been removed
- Familysearch - I have modified the support pages to reflect the recent changes. I have kept the link to the old IGI batch numbers but believe these can also be dropped. There is an associated blog. [For the time being the old site can be accessed via oldfamilysearch.com]
- FindMyPast - Blog noted
- GRO - General Register Office - Now links directly to page for ordering certificates online
- HALS - Link on my HALS page was out of date
- Hertfordshire Museums - New key link
- Historical Directories - Note added that there have been no recent updates.
- Listed Buildings - New key link
- National Archives - Now has an associated blog.
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